normal self-assembling bilayers from single lipid .gro

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10 years 6 months ago #2088 by htranz
Hi Martini gurus,

I am a new user with a little MD background working on self-assembling/simulating my own bilayer systems. Using the DSPC tutorial as a template I have been working to simulate systems with 512 lipids (combinations of DPPC and DOPC) in water. I have manually edited the dspc_single.gro file from the tutorial to generate a dppc_single.gro and dopc_single.gro by simply adding/deleting residues and renaming to match the different lipids, but left the coordinates exactly the same from dspc_single.gro.

Is this an appropriate method to obtain accurate self-assembled bilayer simulations? I am worried that the system energy minimization may be inaccurately represented by using the dspc coordinates, is there a better way to generate single lipid .gro files?

Thank you very much for any help!

Holden

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10 years 6 months ago #2096 by mnmelo
Hi,

The Martini model is quite robust in that respect, so you should have no problem in using DSPC coordinates as a starting point -- even more so if doing a self-assembly.

Just a quick tip: if you're using GROMACS you can get away without having to actually rename atoms in the .gro file. grompp will complain about name mismatches but you can ignore that in this case.

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10 years 6 months ago #2097 by Clement
If I understand well your question, you changed on the fly the names of the beads of your lipids from DSPC to match DPPC/DOPC, (and add/remove beads if necessary) and wonder if the conformation is usable as it is?

The answer is yes, the minimization will fix that; the Martini force field is flexible enough to allow this kind of... tweaks.

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10 years 6 months ago #2113 by htranz
Thank you very much for your responses. Clement, yes I did just modify the .gro file as you said, glad to hear the molecules adjust acccordingly. On a somewhat related note, I've tried making a Cholesterol single molecule .gro file by editing the dppc_chol.gro file available on the download page. My intention is to insert Chol molecules into a lipid bilayer, however on attempting to self assemble a 50/50 DPPC/Chol system I get some LINCS warnings early on and then the mdrun terminates with the following error:

[leapfrog:14187] *** Process received signal ***
[leapfrog:14187] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[leapfrog:14187] Signal code: Address not mapped (1)
[leapfrog:14187] Failing at address: 0x1bd6a390
[leapfrog:14187] [ 0] /lib64/libpthread.so.0 [0x3bf620eca0]
[leapfrog:14187] [ 1] /opt/gromacs/4.5.5-gcc470-ompi145/lib/libgmx_mpi.so.6 [0x2b3762b7ba5b]
[leapfrog:14187] *** End of error message ***
Segmentation fault

Any idea what might be causing this? Thanks in advance for any help.

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10 years 6 months ago #2127 by Clement
Mmmmh... I think your problem comes from the the structure of the cholesterol itself, which is extremely constrained and quite unstable with a 40fs timestep. We usually simulate it using a dt of 30fs. I think that's the solution. We might have other models available for cholesterol, but not yet well tested or published; I'll forward your message to the people working on it.

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10 years 6 months ago #2134 by htranz
I tried rerunning the simulation with 30fs time step and increased system box size, which seems to have helped but it still terminated with the same error after about 50ns...

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